Wednesday, October 28, 2009

Ritual Human Sacrifice in the Bible

Another much pointed at article when it comes to the inerrancy of the Bible: the occurrence of ritual human sacrifice. Remember, reader, that merely because it is mentioned in the Bible does not mean it is condoned by God. Frequently these are followed by judgment because of disobeying commands. The same goes for any wrongful act that Scripture in other areas condemns. This is the case with many acknowledgements of ritual human sacrifice in the Bible, mentioned here or not.

Like virtually everyone other article on evilbible.com, keep in mind that the author is arguing against something that is "unjust" in their own opinion. They are using opinions, and not even giving criteria, on what is considered unjust. Even more so, the commonly held atheist belief is that morality evolved as well along with civilization, so they cannot condemn these actions within their worldview, only express outrage! Here, however; I agree that ritual sacrifice of humans would be, in fact, unjust. Let's take a look and see how their examples stack up:

1) Isaac being offered (Genesis 22: 1-18): This, as is said in the verse, was a test of Abraham's faith. First of all, let's get some inaccuracies out of the way. Abraham never lied to Isaac, the ram was provided. Also, Abraham never put a knife to Isaac's throat. Verse 10 says "and took the knife to slay his son." When information not in the text is added, the meaning of scripture gets clouded. Now, moving on to the explanation. In early history every civilization had a god of some sort, and human sacrifice was extremely common. Abraham, having come from the pagan city of Ai, would not have thought this out of place. God used this to show that He was different from other gods; He does not accept human sacrifice. This also showed the trust that Abraham had for God, and rightly so. There is also a sort of logic to this from Abraham's perspective; God had promised "In Isaac your seed shall be called". This would show Abraham that even if he did have to sacrifice Isaac, he seed would continue. The only explanation would be God raising him from the dead, so either way he knew his son would live

2) Consecrations of children (Exodus 13:2): these talks about God's command to consecrate every man and beast out of the womb to God, for they are His. EB's commentary reads as follows: "It is clear from the context that consecrate means a burning sacrifice." WHAT!!?? The Hebrew word written here is qadash, meaning "sanctified, prepared, and dedicated". There is no burning involved. If they wanted to mean destroy or burn, the word chadam would have been used.

3) No redemption (Leviticus 27: 28-29): It is common for atheists to pull bits and pieces of different verses together in order to show a point, which is happening here. This was actually part of #2, so keep that in mind. EB says that this verse shows that those firstborns have no chance of redemption because they are being referred to as "doomed". Since ritual human sacrifice wasn't even a part of the Leviticus Law, those first born couldn't have been referred to. They weren't even sacrificed in the first place, look back at #2.

4) Jepthah Burns His Daughter (Judges 11: 29-40): Now, first of all, note that the NLT is used here. Mariano looked at 20 different translations and found not a single other that said she died, and the Hebrew (and Greek) doesn’t say that, either. Another funny thing worth noting about the NLT is when it says "I will give to the Lord the first thing that greets me when I return home in triumph. I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering", it omits a very important word that appears in 18 other translations. That word is "and" (or in Robert Young's Literal Translation, "or"), and this completely changes the meaning of the verse. To offer a virgin to the Lord in the OT was to serve in the sanctuary as a nun, who was not to marry, hence, dying a virgin. This also draws a distinction between an animal and person, if a clean animal was to greet him, it would have been sacrificed, a person was to be consecrated (remember this doesn't mean burned!).

5) God commands burning humans (Joshua 7:15): Again EB makes a huge assumption. They see "burned with fire" and immediately think burnt offering. This is a verse talking about Capital Punishment, which has been a part of God's Law throughout the Old Testament. There is no sacrifice.

6) Josiah and human sacrifice (1 Kings 13:1-2 and 2 Kings 23:20-25): This was not a case of human sacrifice, but merely another case of Capital Punishment. Manasseh, the previous king, had built High Places all over Israel where pagan gods were worshipped. Josiah, full of zeal, killed all of the false priests who were worshipping these false gods. The meaning of talking to the altar in 1 Kings was that Josiah was mocking the false power of the idols by burning the dead priests on the altars, and during that time there is no way that would have been tolerated by gods. Obviously, there was nothing truly there with power.

7) Human sacrifice (Wisdom 3:5-7): The book Wisdom of Solomon is part of the Catholic Bible commonly known as 2nd Canon or Apocrypha. These books are treated by Jewish rabbis like we treat Bible commentaries, useful but not inspired by God. This stance is shared by Protestants. See more information here: www.lifeanddoctrinepurgatory.com/2005/11/apocryphageneral-commentsthe-books.html. Furthermore, does it really need to be pointed out that this is a psalm, and therefore its language uses frequent literary devices such as metaphors? This is the case here.

8) Child sacrifice (Wisdom 14:21-23): EvilBible here is quite correct about one thing; the passage does mention actual child sacrifice. EB even admits here that it was being condemned. The verse even says: "It was not enough for them to err in their knowledge of God, but they live in great strife due to ignorance." This was a case of people making massive errors by no fault of God's. That doesn't mean Scripture was by any means wrong. Also, this is also quoted from the apocrypha; see the link in #7 for an explanation of these books.

9) Humans are fuel for fire (Ezekiel 21:33-37): This is the same deal and number 6, this is a metaphor. I'm sure you have heard the expression "on fire for Christ". This means that you are excited about sharing Him and learning more about Him. This is the case here; the context does not lend any credibility to the idea of humans literally burning. The fire is spreading because of the Christian's call to share His word throughout the world, not literally.

10) Burn Nonbelievers (Deuteronomy 13:13-19): This was a messy time in Israel's history. The cycle of sin kept bringing the Israelites to turn away from God, and He would have a nation conquer them in order to get them to turn to Him again. They frequently had to attack and destroy nations that worshipped other gods and mocked the Lord in order to do His work and even to defend themselves. God put this law in place so that Israel would not continue to turn away from Him. EB assumes that it meant the town and its inhabitants, when in fact the inhabitants are mentioned earlier. The verse says "then you must pile all of the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the Lord." The inhabitants aren't mentioned. In fact, the NIV says this: "completely burn the town and its plunder as a burnt offering to the Lord". The inhabitants are not mentioned and were dealt with in an earlier verse. EB has assumed wrong.

The conclusion, more unfounded assumptions show EvilBible's neglect for the context and true meaning of Scripture. The Bible does not contain ritual human sacrifice any more than it contains rape or murder. For another look check this out:www.atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/06/atheism-ritual-human-sacrifice-in-bible.html Addendum: www.atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/07/addendum-to-atheism-ritual-human.html

15 comments:

  1. Why did Japtheths father who was a priest btw make such a terrible promise to begin with ? Why is there no commentary that says he did evil for promising a human sacrifice. Secondly women were banned from temple work, no where does it say the daughter went to work in the temple. If she did why did all the children of Israel celebrate her for 4 days every year ? It seems a bit much to remmber her for becoming a nun, and yet why is there no mention of her again after the fact ? All it says is her father did as she promised. If her intended to offer her as a nun then his original promise should have said so.

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  2. It also seems strange that japtheths father knows the procedure for human sacrifice ? Shouldnt he know that its wrong to make such a statement to begin with ? Why is he never corrected ?

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  3. One must remmber that the Israelites were not monotheistic to begin with.. They copied everything from their neighbours: languages, writing system, counting system, even the temple of solomon has LOTS of pagan symbolism. Cherubim look a lot like sphinx ? Why. Even the design of the temple is a copy of neughbouring designs.

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  4. Some of the scriptures you are quoting are from a later stage or later edits where the editor is trying to rewrite history. That said it doesnt change the fact that lots of strange practices are unexplainable in the very old testament.


    * Notice the word for sacred prositute has the same root as holy.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_prostitution
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q-D-Sh
    QDSh = Holy
    ?????? qadesh masculine (pagan ritual) male prostitute
    ???????? qdesha feminine (pagan ritual) female prostitute

    * Why is Joshua's campanion called Caleb (which means dog=male prositute) ?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caleb

    Thus Deuteronomy 23:17-18 warns followers:

    None of the daughters of Israel shall be a kedeshah, nor shall any of the sons of Israel be a kadesh.
    You shall not bring the hire of a prostitute (zonah) or the wages of a dog (keleb) into the house of the Lord your God to pay a vow, for both of these are an abomination to the Lord your God

    * The Temple of Solomon had two obelisks outside it.
    As we know obelisk is a phallic symbol. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boaz_and_Jachin

    * Notice Jehovah's wife: Asherah is actually a fertility goddess.
    Her symbolism lives on today in the Menorah and the tree of good and bad in the Adam & Eve story
    http://rebyehoshua.blogspot.com/2006/08/asherah-tree-of-life-and-menorah.html
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asherah

    Asherah's symbols where the tree.
    JER 44:17 But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil.

    * David was a musican which is another euphamism for male prositute in ancient times. He was also Saul's sons lover.

    http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1sam/18.html#1
    18:4 And Jonathan stripped himself of the robe that was upon him, and gave it to David, and his garments, even to his sword, and to his bow, and to his girdle.

    http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1sam/19.html#2
    19:2 But Jonathan Saul's son delighted much in David: and Jonathan told David, saying, Saul my father seeketh to kill thee: now therefore, I pray thee, take heed to thyself until the morning, and abide in a secret place, and hide thyself:

    http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1sam/20.html#30
    20:30 Then Saul's anger was kindled against Jonathan, and he said unto him, Thou son of the perverse rebellious woman, do not I know that thou hast chosen the son of Jesse to thine own confusion, and unto the confusion of thy mother's nakedness?

    http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1sam/20.html#41
    20:41 And as soon as the lad was gone, David arose out of a place toward the south, and fell on his face to the ground, and bowed himself three times: and they kissed one another, and wept one with another, until David exceeded.

    http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/2sam/1.html#26
    1:26 I am distressed for thee, my brother Jonathan: very pleasant hast thou been unto me: thy love to me was wonderful, passing the love of women.

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  5. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_and_Jonathan#Erotic_interpretation

    * Was Judah shocked his sister in law was working as a temple prostitute ?
    http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/38.html#15
    38:15 When Judah saw her, he thought her to be an harlot; because she had covered her face.
    38:16 And he turned unto her by the way, and said, Go to, I pray thee, let me come in unto thee; (for he knew not that she was his daughter in law.) And she said, What wilt thou give me, that thou mayest come in unto me?

    * Did samson go visit a harlot or priestess (or both)?
    http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jg/16.html#1
    16:1 Then went Samson to Gaza, and saw there an harlot, and went in unto her.
    16:2 And it was told the Gazites, saying, Samson is come hither. And they compassed him in, and laid wait for him all night in the gate of the city, and were quiet all the night, saying, In the morning, when it is day, we shall kill him

    * Why remmeber Rahab the harlot or was she a priestess in the temple ?
    Hebrews 11:31
    By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace.
    Why remember a harlot ? however a priestess makes more sense.


    * Why is Abraham's servant holding his penis ?
    http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/24.html#9
    24:9 And the servant put his hand under the thigh of Abraham his master, and sware to him concerning that matter.

    * How would the temple priests know if a man had no balls ?
    http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/dt/23.html#1
    He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

    * Is this a literal admission of Jerusalem being the center of sex worship of Asherah and not Jehovah
    http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ezek/16.html#15
    16:15 But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown, and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that passed by; his it was.

    http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ezek/16.html#25
    16:25 Thou hast built thy high place at every head of the way, and hast made thy beauty to be abhorred, and hast opened thy feet to every one that passed by, and multiplied thy whoredoms.

    * More gay men even w/ Jesus ?
    http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mk/14.html#51
    14:51 And there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold on him:
    14:52 And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked.

    Why is Peter fishing naked ?
    http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jn/21.html#7
    21:7 Therefore that disciple whom Jesus loved saith unto Peter, It is the Lord. Now when Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord, he girt his fisher's coat unto him, (for he was naked,) and did cast himself into the sea.

    * Why is samuel naked all night with King Saul ?
    1 Samuel 19:24
    And he stripped off his clothes also, and prophesied before Samuel in like manner, and lay down naked all that day and all that night. Wherefore they say, Is Saul also among the prophets?

    * Sacred prostitutes
    2:22 Now Eli was very old, and heard all that his sons did unto all Israel; and how they lay with the women that assembled at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.

    Another temple prostitue for David!
    1 KINGS 1:1 Now king David was old and stricken in years; and they covered him with clothes, but he gat no heat. 1:2 Wherefore his servants said unto him, Let there be sought for my lord the king a young virgin: and let her stand before the king, and let her cherish him, and let her lie in thy bosom, that my lord the king may get heat. 1:3 So they sought for a fair damsel throughout all the coasts of Israel, and found Abishag a Shunammite, and brought her to the king.
    1:4 And the damsel was very fair, and cherished the king, and ministered to him: but the king knew her not.

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  6. Please read my posts. If you have an argument, email me. Commenting is counter productive and hard to follow, I can barely tell which verses and sources correspond to which. I will, however, make a point I've made multiple times in theses articles. Simply because an action is recorded in the Bible, even if the action is performed by a servant of God, does not mean it is condoned. Many many times God's servants make mistakes and He teaches them through it, but you haven't given that context.

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  7. I am fluent in Greek, Hebrew and English. I have a PhD in Biblical studies and worked on the synoptic problem. Every (sensationalist) comment I just read is due to ignorance. Read the bible in its original language and get back to me; Spirit Slain is right on.

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  12. Wow. So your article is biased just like evil bible's. Just in different ways. There is rape and it is condoned. Even a verse about laying in wait to capture the women to rape them.

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    1. There is no rape being condoned by God. It amazes me that atheists always attempt to accuse God of this but they never take note of how much atheism hypocritically defends rape.
      http://www.patheos.com/blogs/camelswithhammers/2012/02/the-amazing-rape-promoting-atheist/

      http://creation.com/rape-and-evolution

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e-g_y9WVBk

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vPW4aZ0BUI

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjXt3L_CByo

      That's a little something for atheists that accuse God of condoning rape, to chew on!

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  13. I am actually a Muslim I am trying to find out if evil bible dot com is owned by trop the religion of peace dot com both web sites are horrifically crappy made if I can find out it would be good they're are legitimately lying on they're websites but that's not the problem it's they are causing people to turn on each other. Why do I think it's owned by the same people? They're website style and they're dumb taking everything out of context and claiming they are right then going back re editing it. My second conviction evil bible has not been updated ( I think it was theyre first website then they created trop kind of to create a I hate you you hate me type of diversion I dunno I knew about evil bible dot com for a long time then trop came out 2016 horrific crap made website anyone know if they are connected i strongly feel they're are both owned by atheist

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